Vaughn McKenzie-Landell is the founder of Butter, a protocol for DAO (decentralized autonomous organization) Governance. In the past, he was an aspiring singer who ultimately chose a career in technology, eventually merging the two to focus on how the latter can be used to disrupt the walled garden surrounding the former. He built JAAK and is now rallying around a new project called Juice. We chatted about these endeavors, learning Japanese, how to better capture value in music, and a great many other things.