Hu is an award-winning journalist and the founder of Water & Music, a collaborative research community that focuses on the intersection of music and tech. Cherie is one of those rare humans – extremely intelligent, curious about the world, strong ethical foundation, and very low ego.

We chatted about all kinds of: playing piano, almost taking the conservatory route, thinking laterally, on-chain music, AI. And the catchphrase for the whole thing: I’ve never seen eggrolls go so hard.